An Excellent Combination
I had RP surgery in October of 2010; full right nerves spared and partial left nerves spared. Stopped wearing pads after 6 weeks and only experience minor leakage incidents on occasion. Was put on Cialis immediately after catheter removal. After 2 months of taking the medication, I wasn’t experiencing meaningful erections (I do realize it’s still early). Read an article from the Us Too Prostate Cancer website and there was mention of Nitric Oxide / Argenine in obtaining erections. The article can be found on the January 11th (2011) Hotsheet - page 6 under Ask Doctor Snuffy Myers. I purchased a bottle of 1000mg capsules of Argenine and have been taking 2000mg twice a day. Within one week, I’ve started experiencing stiff erections that last while having sex. Spoke to an ED doctor and he suggested I continue taking the supplements although he feels my newly found erections are a result of my nerves healing. I am more inclined to believe the Argenine has interacted (as described) with the Cialis as a booster. Anyone else experience this positive outcome after using Argenine? Perhaps the “Urology Department” may want to look further into this amino acid to combine with ED drug treatments.
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Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:13
THANKS FOR THE INFO! Will be getting some Argenine this weekend!
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:14
Here it is for those that are interested:
http://www.ustoo.org/PDFs/HotSheets/HotSheet012011.pdf
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:15
Hope it works for you and I will look for your feedback after you’ve taken the arginine for a week.
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:15
I just read about l-arginine and b-12 earlier. My Cialis will be ready tomorrow, and am planning to try the arginine. Not sure how quick I’ll see results since I’m just a month post robotic….tkd.
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:16
I started taking l-arginine 6 weeks into taking Cialis. The Cialis wasn’t providing me with full erections and I was about to stop taking Cialis because of sinus difficulties experienced with the drug. After reading the article, I found immediate results (within 2 days). I increased the dosage to 3000mg twice 2 a day on the days I take Cialis. A definite positive result. You may want to wait and see how the Cialis affects you - it may not be necessary to take the l-arginine. I had partial nerves removed on my left nerve bundle and nerves were fully spared on the right nerve bundle. Good luck and I wish you a speedy recovery. There didn’t appear to be too many responses to this finding. I felt a need to share my experience; perhaps this is not a concern of everyone who’s gone through RP or similar.
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:16
Where are you guys buying your l-arginine?? Have to be careful about who is selling supplements. I’ve read Puritan’s Pride is reliable brand
I’m going to order some as soon as I get your feedback and let you know how it works.
FYI I take cialis 5mg daily and use my pump religiously :) No spontaneous erections yet but the pump gets me there and I can have orgasims. Doc put off the injections for month “to see how things go” (I am just over 2 months post-op) and also the nurse “forgot” to tell me that I need to stop my cialis a few days before the test injection (to see how I react to the trimix without interacting with the cialis) which is why I could not try it last visit.
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:17
Found this on Consumer Lab.comIt’s a pay site run by a Dr that tests supplements such as glucosamine. He has not tested this supplement but does have some info:
Impotence
The substance nitric oxide (NO) plays a role in the development of an erection. Dugs like Viagra increase the body’s sensitivity to the natural rise in NO that occurs with sexual stimulation. A simpler approach might be to raise levels of this substance, and one way to accomplish this involves use of the amino acid L-arginine. Oral arginine supplements may increase NO levels in the penis and elsewhere. Based on this, L-arginine has been advertised as “natural Viagra.” However, there is as yet little evidence that it works. Drugs based on raising NO levels in the penis have not worked out for pharmaceutical developers; the body seems simply to adjust to the higher levels and maintain the same level of response.
Nonetheless, some small studies have found possible evidence of benefit.
In a double-blind trial, 50 men with erectile dysfunction received either 5 g of arginine per day or placebo for 6 weeks.27 More men in the treated group experienced improvement in sexual performance than in the placebo group.
A double-blind crossover study of 32 men found no benefit with 1,500 mg of arginine daily for 17 days.39 However, the lower dose of arginine as well as the shorter course of treatment may explain the discrepancy between these two studies.
Arginine has also been evaluated in combination with the drug yohimbine (as opposed to the herb yohimbe).47 A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of 45 men found that one-time use of this combination therapy an hour or two prior to intercourse improved erectile function, especially in those with only moderate erectile dysfunction scores. Arginine and yohimbine were both taken at a dose of 6 g. Note: Do not use the drug yohimbine (or the herb yohimbe) except under physician supervision, as it presents a number of safety risks.
One study supposedly found that arginine plus OPCs can improve male sexual function, but because the study lacked a placebo group it did not, in fact, find anything at all.54 (For more information on why placebos are necessary, see Why Does This Database Depend on Double-Blind Studies?)
A small, unpublished, double-blind study listed on the manufacturer’s website reported benefits with a proprietary combination of arginine and the herbs ginseng, ginkgo, and damiana, and vitamins and minerals.
Hope this useful. The numbers such as 54 are footnote references
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:18
I seriously thought about purchasing Arginine after reading your post, then went to pick up my Levitra, and after consulting with the pharmacist, taking Levitra with any nitrate is a definite no. I think between the pump and Levitra, things should be just fine.
Omni says:
August 17th, 2011 at 20:18
Very interesting! I plan on ordering them ( I get my supplements through Puritan’s Pride online), but I would strongly suggest reading the “side effects” tab on the Web MD link. Although L-Arginine is seemingly safe, most of us are of the age whereby we’re taking medications for blood pressure, etc. Make sure you don’t have any of the maladies mentioned before experimenting.
I’ve known that Arginine is used by weight lifters to build muscle mass, so this makes perfect sense for the “other” muscle.
It would be great if this thread is updated by those of us trying this adjunct to Cialis, Viagra or Levitra. If posting results, please indicate the dosage/frequency of your E.D. med and the same thing for your Arginine/Carnitine supplements.